Improvement. 

"My citroen won't start" (lucasboechat) 01/05/2015 at 19:06 • Filed to: None

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Is what happened between the interior of the Disco 3 and the Disco 4

Massive amounts of leather.

AM3R shamefully returns > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:07

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I..... Like them both

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > AM3R shamefully returns 01/05/2015 at 19:11

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Me too. The Disco 3 is more traditional Disco, the 4 is more Range Rover.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:15

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I used to have a Disco 4. The seats were lovely, and the leather parts of the dash and doors felt great, but some plastic parts still felt really cheap. I liked the slight art-deco type thing going on as well.

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 19:19

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I've been lusting over them recently as they are becoming more attainable (prices here are double that of other countries). I nearly bought an armored Disco 3 but evently got the Tribeca.

My citroen won't start > AM3R shamefully returns 01/05/2015 at 19:20

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I like them both too, one is more rugged and functional while the other (like G_Body_man said) is more Rangie.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:22

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I can promise you the Tribeca is more fun. Disco 3/4's are really nice motors, but slightly soulless IMO. I feel bad for buying it and I feel sad for getting rid of it, but I never loved it.

AM3R shamefully returns > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 01/05/2015 at 19:24

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the 3 looks exactly how I'd want it to, tough and rugged but still a more well put together than the average off-roader.

The 4 looks like what I'd actually buy haha. Luxurious, comfortable, and refined.

AM3R shamefully returns > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:25

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great way to put it. Wouldn't mind either as my winter "beater" now that we are forecasted snow tomorrow!

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 19:25

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I can understand that, they don't have that character the Disco 2 had or the Rangies have. What did you replace it with?

45bullets > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:26

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HammerheadFistpunch > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:30

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not improved.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:30

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Didn't, still looking! I have the other two Landys and the Alfa but I need something practical. If you can remember, you were helping me search UK Autotrader...!

BJ > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:32

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The Disco 3 (LR3) is starting to fall into my price range for a used 4x4 and that interior looks awful good...

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 19:37

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Ah, of course I do! That was the day I finally understood taxes on cars in the UK. Have you narrowed the possibilities down?

My citroen won't start > HammerheadFistpunch 01/05/2015 at 19:38

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That I agree with, the 9 speed is very wonky

scoob > HammerheadFistpunch 01/05/2015 at 19:38

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I like yanking and smashing down on a real handbrake lever. I like the clicks too. Lol.

My citroen won't start > BJ 01/05/2015 at 19:38

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I nearly bought one, but my fear spoke louder and I bought a Tribeca.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:43

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Honestly haven't been looking recently. I run my own business and it was the first day of work today, so ever since Christmas I've managed to find plenty to do! Gonna start looking again in Feb once everything else is in order.

Yeh, the UK taxes are slightly confusing on older cars as they vary dependant on registration date. I'm sorta still thinking Alfa 159 diesel estate :)

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 19:47

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I was in Switzerland for the last few weeks, so many 159 estates and Audi RS6s being driven by 80 years olds. The 159 a very pretty car and a very good choice!

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:52

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Haha I'd take the RS6 Avant instead though, in a heartbeat. All the same, the Alfa is a looker, and it's fairly good on fuel/tax/insurance, so I might be the guy with two Land Rovers and two Alfa Romeos. I'm going to be the electrical gremlin's best mate, and Mr Corrosion's room mate

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 19:55

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You beat me in the unreliability game, my air suspension Citroens are no match for your Italian and English duos. Although the future S8 might eventually become the least reliable car I will ever own.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 19:56

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Heywhatfutures8?

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 19:58

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I finished the payments on my C4 Sedan in december, so I did the only logical choice and am going to replace it with an armored 2000 Audi S8 with 47k miles.

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:03

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Dude, definitely an excellent choice. That is my uninformed opinion, I goddamn love that car. How is Brazilian law for offensive vehicular weaponry?

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 20:06

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I was between that and a also armored Rangie P38. I don't think they allow that, but maybe some deployable spikes and smoke screen are ok?

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:11

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While the S8's aren't excellent in terms of reliability, they are good. With the Range Rover you'd inherit a lot of problems; nature of the beast I'm afraid. The P38's are going super cheap over here now because they cost so much to keep running. You made the right decision! Have you found the one you want?

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 20:13

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Haha yes, one of only two for sale in my state.

http://www.webmotors.com.br/comprar/audi/s…

BJ > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:17

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Probably a smarter choice. Our needs are perhaps different, though - I'm looking to do something like this with a 4x4:

I'm not sure a Tribeca would get the job done.

My citroen won't start > BJ 01/05/2015 at 20:23

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Probably not

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:26

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My Spanish isn't great, but from what i can work out, that thing is fully loaded! Amazing what you could get in a premium car in the 2000's. Oh and by the way, I love it, buy it, drive it [nicely], write about it.

My citroen won't start > 4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 01/05/2015 at 20:29

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I will only drive it on weekends (or when the C5 decides not to work). It has solar cells on the sunroof so you can leave the AC on without turning the engine on!

4muddyfeet - bare knuckle with an EZ30 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:36

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Mine has a cigarette lighter socket, which I only installed yesterday. I win!

Alex B > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:40

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More details on the S8?

My citroen won't start > Alex B 01/05/2015 at 20:41

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I'll do it until the end of this month!

http://www.webmotors.com.br/comprar/audi/s…

47k miles

Alex B > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:43

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Looks good!

BJ > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:48

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Then again, there's no guarantee that a Disco is the right machine for the job, either:

My citroen won't start > BJ 01/05/2015 at 20:50

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But there is:

Axial > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 20:52

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Visually, looks like a side-grade to me.

sm70- why not Duesenberg? > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 21:37

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My friend has a Disco 3. I can safely say that the interior, while nice enough, is not what I expected. Disco 4 is much better.

Rory > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 22:07

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We have a Disco 3 as a family car and I adore the interior , much more then the Disco 4.
Its just so rugged in a "not trying to imitate ruggedness" sort of way . Great cupholders , Storage, big chunky buttons, Navigation that just does navigation. and a nice floppy 6 speed Manual that feels like something from a truck.
I just love the feel of the buttons
A good solid push.
mmm british

Parth985 > My citroen won't start 01/05/2015 at 23:42

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My disco 4 I love it's great does everything I need

Gabriel > BJ 01/06/2015 at 06:39

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I've seen one in action back in december and it was handling great, between stock and highly modified Jeep and Toyota. But it have done that in a luxurious manner! Unfortunately I do not have a action pic or video to show...

BJ > Gabriel 01/06/2015 at 08:44

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Yeah, they're super capable and with the fancy brake-assisted gizmos you can (in theory) go a long way before you need a rear locker - just keep the revs up to 2500+.

I'm going to take a look at this one on Friday or Saturday, but only if the service records are available:

http://www.spinellinissan.com/fr/occasion/la…

If they don't have service records, there are just too many unknowns and I'll go back to looking at 4Runners!

Gabriel > BJ 01/06/2015 at 09:58

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It looks like the vehicle have been towed behind a RV, as the 2 small brackets in the front bumper suggest.

I heard of some reliability issue for some LR product (I do not know if it's applicable to a Disc3), but a 10 yo truck and 150k+ kms will need some maintenance and I guess LR is not cheap to repair? And that not every mechanics are knowlegeable about them.

I do love the 4Runner, as you know, for it's size and reliability. For about the same vintage, mileage and price, you can get a 4Runner with some gizmos (DAC, Center diff Lock, etc), the Toyota reliability and broader range of aftermarket products.

http://www.autohebdo.net/a/Toyota/4Runn…

http://www.autohebdo.net/a/Toyota/4Runn…

Gabriel > BJ 01/06/2015 at 10:01

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Oh, I work in Pointe-Claire, so if you want to see a 2010 4Runner Trail Edition, I can show you mine. If you ever find one in your budget ;) They do have one like mine at Spinelli Toyota (a 2011 model) but priced over 32k$!

BJ > Gabriel 01/06/2015 at 13:02

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Those two little bolts are probably for the factory plastic brush guard - my guess is that it was cracked or broken, and the truck is more presentable without it.

The LR have a couple of known problems: air suspension (easily swapped out), exploding diffs (check service records for previous replacement and good maintenance), and electrical gremlins (not much you can do there). The price is decent for an SE w/7 seats, so I'm gonna look and see how it feels.

BJ > Gabriel 01/06/2015 at 13:03

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I'm looking at something a bit older in a 4Runner, in the 2003 - 2005 range. Still trying to respect that $10k budget!

Gabriel > BJ 01/06/2015 at 13:14

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Make sure that theses things doesn't break your budget right after you buy it ;)

BJ > Gabriel 01/06/2015 at 13:51

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Yeah, i know... Let me dream a little ok?

Gabriel > BJ 01/06/2015 at 14:06

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Hey Dream BIG!!

But seriously, think about maintenance cost of the vehicle. I used to own a 25+ years old Toyota Land Cruiser Diesel and it was a money pit just to get to par on the maintenance, but I knew it beforehand and it wasn't my daily driver.

BJ > Gabriel 01/06/2015 at 14:23

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Yeah, the 4Runner is still top of the list even though I'd really like to have the option of a 7-seater.

I just got off the phone with Spinelli Nissan and they don't have the service history for the vehicle. They salesperson I spoke to said she will talk to her manager and see if they can get in touch with the previous owner. If I can't be sure the diff has been replaced it's a no-go.

But, wait! There's a really handsome 2004 Disco II at a Chrysler dealer on Des Sources that looks pretty nice...

Gabriel > BJ 01/06/2015 at 15:32

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The 4th & 5 Gen (2003-Current) 4Runner SR5 and Limited had the options for a 3rd row, you just have to find one.

The one at Des Sources Chrysler looks nice.

BJ > Gabriel 01/06/2015 at 18:52

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Yeah, but they're maintenance nightmares. Beautiful, luxurious nightmares. As they say, "if it's not leaking, it's 'cause it's run dry."

The 3rd row was a US-only option for the 4th gen, or at least it was for the first few years.

Gabriel > BJ 01/07/2015 at 08:24

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Toyota Offroad Québec did a run on december 29th: